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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370
This is the way I see it.
1. No one still knows what the 2012 refresh entails.
2. Musclecar to Z comparo are the stupidest comparos on the face of the earth. I don't see anyone comparing the camaro SS to the porsche boxster.
3. In the end the Z is a tuner car. There was once a time not too long ago when you bought a car like this and didn't worry about how fast it was stock. Cuz you know of its FI potential.
4. People who worry about the muscle car market zap the fun out of owning cars like these.
5. That's also why they make different types of cars. When you pay off the Z. Buy a mustang camaro etc... or just trade. Maybe you can afford both????
Either way they are different enthusiast segments. You cant maneuver a muscle car as well as a Z. Also I want to add this. Don't forget you opted for a V6 SPORTS CAR. If you want v8 power? Buy a v8. This is why after a few years japan just cuts all there cars from the US. They provide the best v6 engines on the market and the american consumer complains the v6 is not good enough. Show me a V6 musclecar that can outperform the v6 370z?????? I personally can't think of one.
Comparably, a porsche cayman has comparable specs and acceleration times @ double the cost. Why doesn't anyone complain that the cayman is slow???
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I agree with all the points you make. However, you have to look at it from a market economics point of view. The Z vs muscle car comparisons make sense in that they are both performance oriented cars in the same price range. To true performance enthusiasts, this is meaningless, but to the manufacturers and the average customer for these vehicles. This average consumer will look at price and most likely just straight line performance. They know they won't ever go to a track, so they just want to be able to go fast in a straight line and get the most horespower they can with the car stock. This point of view is important because it affects sales numbers, which ultimately effects development and importance of the Z relative to other cars in the Nissan lineup. The reason some people believe that Nissan might stop making the Z is due the low sales, which in turn are due to the comparisons against these muscle cars. Nissan does need to step up their game with the Z soon if it wants to stay relevant in these comparisons for the average consumer.
No one looking for a 5.0 Mustang or Camaro SS is cross shopping a Cayman, it's usually way out of their price range. The way they look at it, I can get almost 100 more hp and a faster car (0-60, 1/4 mile) for half the price. The market for those cars is much larger than for the Porsche. Same with the Z. They're thinking I can get almost 100 more hp and a faster car for the same price or even less.
Just my
