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1 pass means working the product until it is completely broken down, I don't think it would take another 100 passes to remove the deeper defects judging from the results in my picture.  |
Again, it's a curved scale. The first pass always looks good. By the 4th pass, people are wondering if the damage will ever come out. I talk to them all the time so I know this for a fact.
There are people on this very forum who know how long it takes to correct a normally swirled up car with the PC. How many passes can a guy do it 8 hours on one hood? I beg to differ with how long you think it may take using OTC products. That is what we
were talking about.
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And what does that prove? That Chinese manufacture can't sell their clay in the USA because AutoMagic has the exclusive patent here. Also, that Chinese company doesn't make clay for AutoMagic as you incorrectly stated.
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I find the quality indistiguishable between the higher quality Chinese microfiber, my Pakshak MFs (regarded as one of the best Korean MFs available), and *gasp*, my Adams edgeless and single soft MFs. I would like you to show me an example of how "brutal" chinese microfibers are from a mainstream reputable brand. An example such as Costco/Walmart/Autozone etc MFs do not count.
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Why don't they count??? They are MADE IN CHINA! I thought their stuff was the cat's meow? You appear to be back peddling now!
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I didn't see you specifically referencing detailing products, only Chinese products in general so I responded accordingly.
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I was talking about detailing products, although they do make a lot of other junk too.
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Don't insult me. I have been buying detailing products for years from every company from Meguiar's to Zymol to Menzerna to Adams to Mothers to Optimum to Cquartz, not to mention every other product a regular consumer purchases both in the US and across the world. I don't know know if you remember where the US came from, but our manufacturing abilities 50 short years ago were not all that dissimilar to China's current state.
Keeping jobs in the US is vital, no doubt about it. However, if an American job was lost to an overseas country, what would you be mad about? Maybe that they are willing to do the same job for less? Maybe all the labor unions that demand pay and benefits that are far above the industry average present too much cost to a company? I am an American, but this sense of entitlement is really going to hurt in the long run. Obviously, there are many factors in this complex topic. But if you don't want jobs shipped out, you have to step up your game to become more competitive and present a better deal to the company. Jobs are a privilege, not a right.
As a disclaimer, I love to see jobs stay within the US but again, you cannot make blanket statements with the sole purpose of dismissing international products and elevating American made products. And you are on detailingworld, you should be seeing how the European/Asian nano technologies are producing detailing products that are far superior in performance to many traditional detailing products.
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Sense of entitlement? That's what you call it when an American citizen gives 20, 30 even 40 plus years of their life to a company, only to have them close up shop, leave the states and take with them the very pensions that these people thought they would have to live on? Entitlement? Nope. I think that it's just fine for a company to suck the life out of their employees, build their fortunes on their backs and leave them standing with nothing to show for their blood, sweat and tears that they sacrificed.
That's exactly why I use Adam's products. He gets it.